- We can read everywhere that a charger will only provide what the device is capable to take, is that right?
- Is that really safe to charge a MotoG (specified to be capable of charging between 550 and 1500mA by the manufacturer) on a 2A adapter?
Trying to keep things objective
- To monitor input Current:
- To "monitor" output current: Ampere
- The device uses between 180 and 300 mA when idle, screen ON, wifi ON.
- Ampere mesurements display current applied to the battery, not the one coming from the adapter; so we will add 250mA to the results (or 160 with the experiments without wifi).
- Therefore if Ampere displays +1000 mA that would mean that the adapter provides about 1250mA and Battery gets 1000mA.
- Considering previous experiments we can assume that the results are accurate at +/-100mA; this means that when Ampere displays 1000mA, the charger provides something between 1150 and 1350mA (displayed current +250 +/-100)
- To monitor Temperature:
Temperature is monitored with the pm8226_tz probe that looks like to be linked with the power manager of the battery -aka battery 'charger' when device is plugged to power source-
Sony: 5V 850mA
Samsung: 5V 2A or 9V 1.67A with fastcharging capable devicer (EP-TA20EWEUGWW)
When results are so inconsistent that you cannot really conclude -_-'
- Input power: 6W +/-1
- Output power: 3.75~4.75W (5V 750~850mA)
- Efficiency : 54~95% (worst_case~best_case)
- Input power: 8W +/-1
- Output power: 6.35~7.35W(5V 1270~1470mA)
- Efficiency: 70~105% (No, current is not coming from anywhere, this 105% is due to the +/-1W inaccuracy of the input wattmeter!)
As best case condition cannot be used, let's see for worst cases:
Samsung worst case is above the sony's worst case so we can at least say that this adapter is NOT LESS efficient in this specific condition [50% battery, room temp @21°C ...]. As i don't have enough data yet -and the worst monitoring tools available- i am not able to say that the Samsung Charger is more efficient.
When spare Watts become heat?
Sony at 50% charge :
Battery charging current was about 600mA meaning that the charger was providing 850+/-100mA, considering the charger cannot provide more than 850mA, the real value is somewhere between 750 and 850mA.
pm8226_tz T° is about 43°C, this threshold is never exceeded.
- at 50% charge :
Battery charging current was about 1120mA meaning that the charger was providing 1370mA+/-100 pm8226_tz rises up to 51°C until the 70-75% of charge are reached,
- Then (70%+) current is limited to about 800mA and T° decrease slowly to reach 41°C at 80%.
- At 89% current is only 400mA pm8226_tz only 37°C and the Input current is lowered at 3.2W.
- When fully charged, idle and screen ON, the adapter still uses 1.9W from home circuit. which means that with an efficiency of about 70% the adapter provides about 226mA which corresponds to the device usage. When screen is OFF, the adapter input current drops under the watmetter detection threshold.
Here is a chart showing Charge Current and pm8226 Temperature against charging percentage.
- what happens before 50% ?
- Does the adapter reaches the 1500mA that the device is theorically capable to handle?
- Is the device really able to handle that much Current ?
- How does the temperature increase if the device is NOT totally idle while charging?
- Will the battery survive multiple full charge this way?
Quick Update before the full article : my MotoG power management unit (pm8226) reaches up to 57°C when using it really little while charging, i don't think it is safe at this level of heat ...
If i had better tools, i would try to make accurate charts about :